visual web developer express 2005 and IIS 5

Hi ,

I recently installed Visual web developer express 2005 and .net
framework 2.0 .

but after i installed it i can see one more tab in the IIS settings
....
Default website -> properties ->ASP.NET Tab-> under which i can see an
ASP.NET version dropdownlist and i can select only one version of .net
at a time...so does that mean that i cannot use both .NET 1.1 and .NET
2.0 version simultaniously ?

Thanks
Raghavendra1) it's till beta
2) you will be able to use multiple versions side by side

Curt

"raagz" <raagzcd@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hi ,
> I recently installed Visual web developer express 2005 and .net
> framework 2.0 .
> but after i installed it i can see one more tab in the IIS settings
> ...
> Default website -> properties ->ASP.NET Tab-> under which i can see an
> ASP.NET version dropdownlist and i can select only one version of .net
> at a time...so does that mean that i cannot use both .NET 1.1 and .NET
> 2.0 version simultaniously ?
> Thanks
> Raghavendra
I've had success running a sites off IIS and one off the web development
web server at the same time.. You won't be able to run them both of IIS at
the same time (why would you want to in development), but you should be able
to run them off different HTTPd's...

Karl

"raagz" <raagzcd@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e1ee8ab9.0408170529.1ea4f981@.posting.google.c om...
> Hi ,
> I recently installed Visual web developer express 2005 and .net
> framework 2.0 .
> but after i installed it i can see one more tab in the IIS settings
> ...
> Default website -> properties ->ASP.NET Tab-> under which i can see an
> ASP.NET version dropdownlist and i can select only one version of .net
> at a time...so does that mean that i cannot use both .NET 1.1 and .NET
> 2.0 version simultaniously ?
> Thanks
> Raghavendra

visual web developer express 2005 and IIS 5

Hi ,
I recently installed Visual web developer express 2005 and .net
framework 2.0 .
but after i installed it i can see one more tab in the IIS settings
...
Default website -> properties ->ASP.NET Tab-> under which i can see an
ASP.NET version dropdownlist and i can select only one version of .net
at a time...so does that mean that i cannot use both .NET 1.1 and .NET
2.0 version simultaniously ?
Thanks
Raghavendra1) it's till beta
2) you will be able to use multiple versions side by side
Curt
"raagz" <raagzcd@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e1ee8ab9.0408170529.1ea4f981@.posting.google.com...
> Hi ,
> I recently installed Visual web developer express 2005 and .net
> framework 2.0 .
> but after i installed it i can see one more tab in the IIS settings
> ...
> Default website -> properties ->ASP.NET Tab-> under which i can see an
> ASP.NET version dropdownlist and i can select only one version of .net
> at a time...so does that mean that i cannot use both .NET 1.1 and .NET
> 2.0 version simultaniously ?
> Thanks
> Raghavendra
I've had success running a sites off IIS and one off the web development
web server at the same time.. You won't be able to run them both of IIS at
the same time (why would you want to in development), but you should be able
to run them off different HTTPd's...
Karl
"raagz" <raagzcd@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e1ee8ab9.0408170529.1ea4f981@.posting.google.com...
> Hi ,
> I recently installed Visual web developer express 2005 and .net
> framework 2.0 .
> but after i installed it i can see one more tab in the IIS settings
> ...
> Default website -> properties ->ASP.NET Tab-> under which i can see an
> ASP.NET version dropdownlist and i can select only one version of .net
> at a time...so does that mean that i cannot use both .NET 1.1 and .NET
> 2.0 version simultaniously ?
> Thanks
> Raghavendra

Visual Web Developer express - Client or Server code in source view?

This is a question on the first walkthrough "Walkthrough: Creating a
Basic Web Page in Visual Web Developer"

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/k4cbh4dh.aspx
It shows that when you first create an ASP.Net web site, the left-hand
drop-down list at the top of Source view will say "Server Objects and
Events", but when I do this it says "Client Objects and Events". Is
there some setting that changes this between client and server?I don't see this in the page you are pointing at, but can tell you what is
most likely happening. The server objects and events will show up when you
are selecting a code section or a code beside page (if you opted for two
files instead of one). The client objects show up when you are in the tags
or designer. If you are using the single page version, you should be able to
create a script runat="server" section click in it and see the server
objects and events.

--
Gregory A. Beamer
MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA

*************************************************
Think outside of the box!
*************************************************
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Quote:

Originally Posted by

This is a question on the first walkthrough "Walkthrough: Creating a
Basic Web Page in Visual Web Developer"
>
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/k4cbh4dh.aspx
>
It shows that when you first create an ASP.Net web site, the left-hand
drop-down list at the top of Source view will say "Server Objects and
Events", but when I do this it says "Client Objects and Events". Is
there some setting that changes this between client and server?
>

Thanks for your help. My problem was that I had "Place code in a
seperate file" checked.

Cowboy (Gregory A. Beamer) wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by

I don't see this in the page you are pointing at, but can tell you what is
most likely happening. The server objects and events will show up when you
are selecting a code section or a code beside page (if you opted for two
files instead of one). The client objects show up when you are in the tags
or designer. If you are using the single page version, you should be able to
create a script runat="server" section click in it and see the server
objects and events.
>
--
Gregory A. Beamer
MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA
>
*************************************************
Think outside of the box!
*************************************************
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Quote:

Originally Posted by

This is a question on the first walkthrough "Walkthrough: Creating a
Basic Web Page in Visual Web Developer"

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/k4cbh4dh.aspx
It shows that when you first create an ASP.Net web site, the left-hand
drop-down list at the top of Source view will say "Server Objects and
Events", but when I do this it says "Client Objects and Events". Is
there some setting that changes this between client and server?

Visual Web Developer Edition Problem on Generate Local Resource

Dear all,

I wonder to know that is the Visual Web Developer Edition tool
contains "Generate Local Resource" function.
I want to make a multi language asp.net website. So I need this
function to help me to generate a resourse file to capture the web
page control's text.

As I know, VS2005.net has this function under [Tools] pull down menu.

Regard,
AlanIf you don't get an answer here, try posting your question to :

http://forums.asp.net/175.aspx
Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en espanol : http://asp.net.do/foros/
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Quote:

Originally Posted by

Dear all,
>
I wonder to know that is the Visual Web Developer Edition tool
contains "Generate Local Resource" function.
I want to make a multi language asp.net website. So I need this
function to help me to generate a resourse file to capture the web
page control's text.
>
As I know, VS2005.net has this function under [Tools] pull down menu.
>
Regard,
Alan
>

Visual Web Developer Express edition

Has anyone here used Visual Web Developer for creating commercial
asp.net applications?
I'm curious if there's actually any difference between Visual Studio and
Visual Web Developer in terms of the type of web applications you can
build etc?
Reading on the web only seems to bring up Microsoft documentation that
states it's primarily for 'hobbyists' and not for professionals.
So this has me a bit hesitant to start a major commercial application
using it, instead of going out and purchasing Visual Studio.
Is the 'hobbyist' thing just them trying to get you to buy a product you
otherwise wouldn't need?
(we don't use SourceSafe, so integration with SourceSafe isn't a
requirement - one thing I understand Web Developer doesn't have)
--
fiddlewidawiddumre:
> I'm curious if there's actually any difference between Visual Studio and
> Visual Web Developer in terms of the type of web applications you can
> build etc?
There a product feature comparison here :
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/p...re/default.aspx
Also, there's some differences listed here:
http://www.ipona.com/samples/032125...orrections.aspx
Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en espaol : http://asp.net.do/foros/
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"Stimp" <ren@.spumco.com> wrote in message news:slrnehghei.jvp.ren@.murphy.redbrick.dcu.ie...

> Has anyone here used Visual Web Developer for creating commercial
> asp.net applications?
> I'm curious if there's actually any difference between Visual Studio and
> Visual Web Developer in terms of the type of web applications you can
> build etc?
> Reading on the web only seems to bring up Microsoft documentation that
> states it's primarily for 'hobbyists' and not for professionals.
> So this has me a bit hesitant to start a major commercial application
> using it, instead of going out and purchasing Visual Studio.
> Is the 'hobbyist' thing just them trying to get you to buy a product you
> otherwise wouldn't need?
> (we don't use SourceSafe, so integration with SourceSafe isn't a
> requirement - one thing I understand Web Developer doesn't have)
> --
> fiddlewidawiddum
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 Juan T. Llibre <nomailreplies@.nowhere.com> wrote:
> re:
> There a product feature comparison here :
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/p...re/default.aspx
> Also, there's some differences listed here:
> http://www.ipona.com/samples/032125...orrections.aspx
thanks.
So generally speaking, there are no limitations in using Visual Web
Developer to create a powerful web application?
The only limits are on how the development takes place, is that right?
i.e. one could theoretically create ebay.com using Visual Web Developer?
--
fiddlewidawiddum
re:
> So generally speaking, there are no limitations in using Visual Web
> Developer to create a powerful web application?
Depending on how you define "a powerful web application", no limitations.
re:
> The only limits are on how the development takes place, is that right?
A bit more than that but, esssentially, except for Mobile Device support,
which VWD doesn't have, you're limited in that VWD doesn't support :
Source Control
Local database development only ( can't modify db's remotely from the IDE )
No Class Designer
No Object Test Bench
No Crystal Reports ( you must use SQL Reporting Services )
No remote debugging ( local only )
No 64-bit Compiler Support
No Server Explorer ( servers node )
No Code profiling
No Static analysis analysis
No Unit testing
No Code coverage
No Project Management
No Test case management
No support for command-line Class Library ( must compile manually )
No development for Office programs
re:
> i.e. one could theoretically create ebay.com using Visual Web Developer?
Yes, although you'll have to work a little harder without the tools listed a
bove.
;-)
Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en espaol : http://asp.net.do/foros/
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> On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 Juan T. Llibre <nomailreplies@.nowhere.com> wrote:
> thanks.
> So generally speaking, there are no limitations in using Visual Web
> Developer to create a powerful web application?
> The only limits are on how the development takes place, is that right?
> i.e. one could theoretically create ebay.com using Visual Web Developer?
> --
> fiddlewidawiddum
you aren't constrained to one tool. Real developers don't use Visual Studio
for everything.
ASP.net websites can be developed with any text editor.
If one tool is missing a feature, finish the job with another tool.
"Stimp" <ren@.spumco.com> wrote in message news:slrnehghei.jvp.ren@.murphy.redbrick.dcu.ie...

> Has anyone here used Visual Web Developer for creating commercial
> asp.net applications?
> I'm curious if there's actually any difference between Visual Studio and
> Visual Web Developer in terms of the type of web applications you can
> build etc?
> Reading on the web only seems to bring up Microsoft documentation that
> states it's primarily for 'hobbyists' and not for professionals.
> So this has me a bit hesitant to start a major commercial application
> using it, instead of going out and purchasing Visual Studio.
> Is the 'hobbyist' thing just them trying to get you to buy a product you
> otherwise wouldn't need?
> (we don't use SourceSafe, so integration with SourceSafe isn't a
> requirement - one thing I understand Web Developer doesn't have)
> --
> fiddlewidawiddum

Visual Web Developer Express and source control?

Does anyone know if Visual Web Developer Express works with Visual
Source Safe?It does not.
For more product comparisons:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/p...re/default.aspx
-Demetri
"briansmccabe@.gmail.com" wrote:

> Does anyone know if Visual Web Developer Express works with Visual
> Source Safe?
>

Visual Web Developer Express and source control?

Does anyone know if Visual Web Developer Express works with Visual
Source Safe?It does not.

For more product comparisons:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/p...re/default.aspx

--
-Demetri

"briansmccabe@.gmail.com" wrote:

> Does anyone know if Visual Web Developer Express works with Visual
> Source Safe?
>

Visual Web Developer Express 2005 question

I had Visual Web Developer Express 2005 and Visual Studio 2005 installed on
my computer.
Realizing that I did not need Visual Web Developer Express 2005 since I had
VS 2005 I removed it.
My question could this be a possible reason that the ASP.NET configuration
tool is not
working in VS 2005 when I am doing web development? What happens is upon
execution
it just brings me back into the same VS design page from where I executed.
thanksHi Barry,
You might want to do a reinstall of VS 2005 to make sure all the bits are
arranged. It's possible that the VWDE uninstall was too aggressive.
Ken
Microsoft MVP [ASP.NET]
"barry" <flagisup@.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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>I had Visual Web Developer Express 2005 and Visual Studio 2005 installed on
>my computer.
> Realizing that I did not need Visual Web Developer Express 2005 since I
> had VS 2005 I removed it.
> My question could this be a possible reason that the ASP.NET configuration
> tool is not
> working in VS 2005 when I am doing web development? What happens is upon
> execution
> it just brings me back into the same VS design page from where I executed.
> thanks
>
I did the reinstall you suggested but with same results.
Is there anyway I could get a look at a web.config file after a new user was
setup using the ASP.NET configuration tool?
thanks
"Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BANSPAMkjopc@.newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
news:elHBR%23KnGHA.4352@.TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Hi Barry,
> You might want to do a reinstall of VS 2005 to make sure all the bits are
> arranged. It's possible that the VWDE uninstall was too aggressive.
> Ken
> Microsoft MVP [ASP.NET]
> "barry" <flagisup@.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:O0hLd7KnGHA.2128@.TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
I was able to bring up the configuration tool but outside of VS 2005 by
using the following url
http://localhost:3932/asp.netwebadm...ionURL=/website
I was able to eye ball the application when it flew by me to get the port
number of the localhost.
Since it is recognizing the tool on my machine but not from within vs 2005
it must be some kind of configuration that I am missing right?
I do not have express 2005 I am using sql server 2005. Could it be I need to
change this setting in the machine config file.
Any ideas would be helpful.
thanks
"barry" <flagisup@.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:%23sZPSwVnGHA.3772@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I did the reinstall you suggested but with same results.
> Is there anyway I could get a look at a web.config file after a new user
> was setup using the ASP.NET configuration tool?
> thanks
> "Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BANSPAMkjopc@.newsgroups.nospam> wrote in
> message news:elHBR%23KnGHA.4352@.TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>

Visual Web Developer Express 2005 question

I had Visual Web Developer Express 2005 and Visual Studio 2005 installed on
my computer.
Realizing that I did not need Visual Web Developer Express 2005 since I had
VS 2005 I removed it.
My question could this be a possible reason that the ASP.NET configuration
tool is not
working in VS 2005 when I am doing web development? What happens is upon
execution
it just brings me back into the same VS design page from where I executed.

thanksHi Barry,

You might want to do a reinstall of VS 2005 to make sure all the bits are
arranged. It's possible that the VWDE uninstall was too aggressive.

Ken
Microsoft MVP [ASP.NET]

"barry" <flagisup@.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:O0hLd7KnGHA.2128@.TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I had Visual Web Developer Express 2005 and Visual Studio 2005 installed on
>my computer.
> Realizing that I did not need Visual Web Developer Express 2005 since I
> had VS 2005 I removed it.
> My question could this be a possible reason that the ASP.NET configuration
> tool is not
> working in VS 2005 when I am doing web development? What happens is upon
> execution
> it just brings me back into the same VS design page from where I executed.
>
> thanks
>
I did the reinstall you suggested but with same results.
Is there anyway I could get a look at a web.config file after a new user was
setup using the ASP.NET configuration tool?

thanks
"Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BANSPAMkjopc@.newsgroups.nospamwrote in message
news:elHBR%23KnGHA.4352@.TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

Hi Barry,
>
You might want to do a reinstall of VS 2005 to make sure all the bits are
arranged. It's possible that the VWDE uninstall was too aggressive.
>
Ken
Microsoft MVP [ASP.NET]
>
"barry" <flagisup@.ix.netcom.comwrote in message
news:O0hLd7KnGHA.2128@.TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

>>I had Visual Web Developer Express 2005 and Visual Studio 2005 installed
>>on my computer.
>Realizing that I did not need Visual Web Developer Express 2005 since I
>had VS 2005 I removed it.
>My question could this be a possible reason that the ASP.NET
>configuration tool is not
>working in VS 2005 when I am doing web development? What happens is upon
>execution
>it just brings me back into the same VS design page from where I
>executed.
>>
>thanks
>>

>
>

I was able to bring up the configuration tool but outside of VS 2005 by
using the following url

http://localhost:3932/asp.netwebadm...ionURL=/website
I was able to eye ball the application when it flew by me to get the port
number of the localhost.

Since it is recognizing the tool on my machine but not from within vs 2005
it must be some kind of configuration that I am missing right?

I do not have express 2005 I am using sql server 2005. Could it be I need to
change this setting in the machine config file.

Any ideas would be helpful.

thanks

"barry" <flagisup@.ix.netcom.comwrote in message
news:%23sZPSwVnGHA.3772@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

>I did the reinstall you suggested but with same results.
Is there anyway I could get a look at a web.config file after a new user
was setup using the ASP.NET configuration tool?
>
thanks
"Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BANSPAMkjopc@.newsgroups.nospamwrote in
message news:elHBR%23KnGHA.4352@.TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

>Hi Barry,
>>
>You might want to do a reinstall of VS 2005 to make sure all the bits are
>arranged. It's possible that the VWDE uninstall was too aggressive.
>>
>Ken
>Microsoft MVP [ASP.NET]
>>
>"barry" <flagisup@.ix.netcom.comwrote in message
>news:O0hLd7KnGHA.2128@.TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

>>>I had Visual Web Developer Express 2005 and Visual Studio 2005 installed
>>>on my computer.
>>Realizing that I did not need Visual Web Developer Express 2005 since I
>>had VS 2005 I removed it.
>>My question could this be a possible reason that the ASP.NET
>>configuration tool is not
>>working in VS 2005 when I am doing web development? What happens is upon
>>execution
>>it just brings me back into the same VS design page from where I
>>executed.
>>>
>>thanks
>>>

>>
>>

>
>

Visual Web Developer Express 2005 and SQL Server 7

Supposedly the new VWD 2005 should work with SQL server 7. So far,
I've only had success with a local install of SQL2005 Express or a
remote SQL 2000. Has anybody had any luck getting VWD to work with a
remote SQL Server 7 install?have you updated the sql7 to sql2000 admin proc's?
-- bruce (sqlwork.com)
"John Hoge" <jhoge123@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d0f2d316.0410251456.15507a45@.posting.google.com...
> Supposedly the new VWD 2005 should work with SQL server 7. So far,
> I've only had success with a local install of SQL2005 Express or a
> remote SQL 2000. Has anybody had any luck getting VWD to work with a
> remote SQL Server 7 install?
Bruce,
Thanks for the tip. Is this something that is a free download or
something that requires a purchase of SQL2K? I had no luck finding it
on the Microsoft website.
John
"bruce barker" <nospam_brubar@.safeco.com> wrote in message news:<OyPm#fuuEHA.3808@.TK2MSFTNG
P10.phx.gbl>...
> have you updated the sql7 to sql2000 admin proc's?
> -- bruce (sqlwork.com)
>
> "John Hoge" <jhoge123@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:d0f2d316.0410251456.15507a45@.posting.google.com...

Visual Web Developer Express 2005 and SQL Server 7

Supposedly the new VWD 2005 should work with SQL server 7. So far,
I've only had success with a local install of SQL2005 Express or a
remote SQL 2000. Has anybody had any luck getting VWD to work with a
remote SQL Server 7 install?have you updated the sql7 to sql2000 admin proc's?

-- bruce (sqlwork.com)

"John Hoge" <jhoge123@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d0f2d316.0410251456.15507a45@.posting.google.c om...
> Supposedly the new VWD 2005 should work with SQL server 7. So far,
> I've only had success with a local install of SQL2005 Express or a
> remote SQL 2000. Has anybody had any luck getting VWD to work with a
> remote SQL Server 7 install?
Bruce,

Thanks for the tip. Is this something that is a free download or
something that requires a purchase of SQL2K? I had no luck finding it
on the Microsoft website.

John

"bruce barker" <nospam_brubar@.safeco.com> wrote in message news:<OyPm#fuuEHA.3808@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>...
> have you updated the sql7 to sql2000 admin proc's?
> -- bruce (sqlwork.com)
>
> "John Hoge" <jhoge123@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:d0f2d316.0410251456.15507a45@.posting.google.c om...
> > Supposedly the new VWD 2005 should work with SQL server 7. So far,
> > I've only had success with a local install of SQL2005 Express or a
> > remote SQL 2000. Has anybody had any luck getting VWD to work with a
> > remote SQL Server 7 install?

Visual Web Developer Express Edition vs. Visual Studio Express Edition

Can someon summzrize the difference between these two tools and why I should use one versus the other?

My goal is to learn ASP.NET with VB

Hi,

Visual Web Developer Express edition is the tool for starting with ASP.NET. Visual Studio Express Editions are for developing desktop applications and component libraries.

You'll get a good start at:http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/express/default.aspx

well that is easy Visual web Developer is asp.net and is what you will want to use to learn asp.net with VB. the visual studio Express Editions are just the VB or C# or J# programming languages for creating Windows Desktop Apllications.

Visual Web Developer Express Edition should be free

I don't know how much Microsoft is planning to price Visual Web Developer
Express Edition. I heard rumors from free to $100.
In my opinion I think it should make it free. The reason is to attract as
many people to .NET and ASP.NET. This includes people who are in the Linux
world using free IDE's like Eclipse and the people who are thinking of
switching from Windows to Linux because Linux and Linux tools are free.
Even if MS prices it at $50, it is still too much for teenagers who are
going to be the future software engineers, developers and coders,... third
world countries developers and the people who just don't want to pay a
penny for any software (the if-it's software,
it-should-be-downloadable-for-free folks).
I would like to think of Visual Web Developer Express Edition as the next
version of Web Matrix and *IS* supported by Microsoft. This way, MS can get
tons of people interested in .NET. On top of that, make the package include
SQL Server 2005 Express Edition for free too (I think it is already?).
I don't think MS is too happy with the fact that .NET hasn't been embraced
as it thought it would.
MS doesn't need to make any money from these entry level packages. It
didn't do it with IE. The long term benefits will be astounding.
John Dalbergi think the express products will be free but thats again for MS to decide.
Either way its aim towards enthusiasts and not developers.
Most season developers would prefer visual studio.net
SQL Server Express is just a new name for MSDE but it will have some UI
tools as well. and MSDE has been free and so would SQL Express me (most
probably)
Well i dont know anybody using linux because of free dev tools... there are
hardly any consider any programming platform. And .net has been embraced a
lot if you ask me. Its a total change in strategy and it takes time. We even
have partial framework implementation on Linux (www.go-mono.com) .Net is not
about making money its making about making life for an average developer
easy. Consider a poor sod supporting a win32 app... or even ms employees
who build apps on top on apis.. the framework essentially shields them from
api's in most cases.
Regards,
Hermit Dave
(http://hdave.blogspot.com)
"John Dalberg" <john_dd@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I don't know how much Microsoft is planning to price Visual Web Developer
> Express Edition. I heard rumors from free to $100.
> In my opinion I think it should make it free. The reason is to attract as
> many people to .NET and ASP.NET. This includes people who are in the
> Linux
> world using free IDE's like Eclipse and the people who are thinking of
> switching from Windows to Linux because Linux and Linux tools are free.
> Even if MS prices it at $50, it is still too much for teenagers who are
> going to be the future software engineers, developers and coders,... third
> world countries developers and the people who just don't want to pay a
> penny for any software (the if-it's software,
> it-should-be-downloadable-for-free folks).
> I would like to think of Visual Web Developer Express Edition as the next
> version of Web Matrix and *IS* supported by Microsoft. This way, MS can
> get
> tons of people interested in .NET. On top of that, make the package
> include
> SQL Server 2005 Express Edition for free too (I think it is already?).
> I don't think MS is too happy with the fact that .NET hasn't been embraced
> as it thought it would.
> MS doesn't need to make any money from these entry level packages. It
> didn't do it with IE. The long term benefits will be astounding.
> John Dalberg
>
I suspect it will be free, or at least dirt cheap.
I'd be surprised if they charged as much as $100 for it, although they
certainly wouldn't charge more.
Of course all such decisions are ultimately up to Microsoft so I can't say
for sure, I just know that their marketing department is not stupid.
I hope this helps,
Steve C. Orr, MCSD, MVP
http://Steve.Orr.net
"John Dalberg" <john_dd@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1exbrusncex3v.ujpyv1hu9m92.dlg@.40tude.net...
>
> I don't know how much Microsoft is planning to price Visual Web Developer
> Express Edition. I heard rumors from free to $100.
> In my opinion I think it should make it free. The reason is to attract as
> many people to .NET and ASP.NET. This includes people who are in the
> Linux
> world using free IDE's like Eclipse and the people who are thinking of
> switching from Windows to Linux because Linux and Linux tools are free.
> Even if MS prices it at $50, it is still too much for teenagers who are
> going to be the future software engineers, developers and coders,... third
> world countries developers and the people who just don't want to pay a
> penny for any software (the if-it's software,
> it-should-be-downloadable-for-free folks).
> I would like to think of Visual Web Developer Express Edition as the next
> version of Web Matrix and *IS* supported by Microsoft. This way, MS can
> get
> tons of people interested in .NET. On top of that, make the package
> include
> SQL Server 2005 Express Edition for free too (I think it is already?).
> I don't think MS is too happy with the fact that .NET hasn't been embraced
> as it thought it would.
> MS doesn't need to make any money from these entry level packages. It
> didn't do it with IE. The long term benefits will be astounding.
> John Dalberg
>
I personally do not care how they do it. Free is fine, but if there is a
market, all the better. I do not think you will see .NET die if there is not
a free product, so our jobs are safe. ;->
Even at $100, I think there is a market for the product, especially when
products like FrontPage are much pricier.
Gregory A. Beamer
MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA
***************************
Think Outside the Box!
***************************
"John Dalberg" wrote:

>
> I don't know how much Microsoft is planning to price Visual Web Developer
> Express Edition. I heard rumors from free to $100.
> In my opinion I think it should make it free. The reason is to attract as
> many people to .NET and ASP.NET. This includes people who are in the Linu
x
> world using free IDE's like Eclipse and the people who are thinking of
> switching from Windows to Linux because Linux and Linux tools are free.
> Even if MS prices it at $50, it is still too much for teenagers who are
> going to be the future software engineers, developers and coders,... third
> world countries developers and the people who just don't want to pay a
> penny for any software (the if-it's software,
> it-should-be-downloadable-for-free folks).
> I would like to think of Visual Web Developer Express Edition as the next
> version of Web Matrix and *IS* supported by Microsoft. This way, MS can ge
t
> tons of people interested in .NET. On top of that, make the package includ
e
> SQL Server 2005 Express Edition for free too (I think it is already?).
> I don't think MS is too happy with the fact that .NET hasn't been embraced
> as it thought it would.
> MS doesn't need to make any money from these entry level packages. It
> didn't do it with IE. The long term benefits will be astounding.
> John Dalberg
>
>
"John Dalberg" <john_dd@.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1exbrusncex3v.ujpyv1hu9m92.dlg@.4
0tude.net...
>
> I don't know how much Microsoft is planning to price Visual Web Developer
> Express Edition. I heard rumors from free to $100.
> In my opinion I think it should make it free. The reason is to attract as
> many people to .NET and ASP.NET. This includes people who are in the Linu
x
> world using free IDE's like Eclipse
Folks in the Linux camp aren't going to switch to asp.net because of a free
dev tool. There are many reasons they prefer
Linux that have nothing to do with the cost of MS tools.
"Hermit Dave" <hermitd.REMOVE@.CAPS.AND.DOTS.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<uUtPPO3jEHA
.712@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>...
> i think the express products will be free but thats again for MS to decide
.
> Either way its aim towards enthusiasts and not developers.
> Most season developers would prefer visual studio.net
Microsoft needs to get as many developers writing for .NET as it can.
If this means giving the Express IDE's away, I think it would make a
lot of sense.
The developers use the professional tools like VS.NET, the enthusiasts
can use the Express tools for free. Even a $5 tool is still a barrier
for a teenager who doesn't have a credit card to buy such a tool
online or is too lazy to ask his/he dad to pay for it and would rather
instead switch to Linux and download everything they want for free.
Microsoft needs to disuade these types by giving the entry level tools
for free. IE captured most of the browser market because IE is free.
It can do similary with IDEs and get developers develop for the
Windows Platform. Once a ton of open source of .NET are out there,
more people will use Windows and Microsoft can leverage on this base
better.
Abdu
"Peter Young" <youngpa@.comcast.no.net.spam.please> wrote in message news:<#FxvCB5jEHA.4068@.
TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>...
> "John Dalberg" <john_dd@.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1exbrusncex3v.u
jpyv1hu9m92.dlg@.40tude.net...
> Folks in the Linux camp aren't going to switch to asp.net because of a fre
e dev tool. There are many reasons they prefer
> Linux that have nothing to do with the cost of MS tools.
They don't have to switch to Windows. They can run Wine or whatever
emulator is out there and play with .NET. There's always the people
who switched to Linux because of cost and lack of free open source
apps. Once we have lots of these apps, the defection for this reason
can be hampered and people might defect back to Windows. Some people
defect to Linux because of (perceived?) better security. Security in
Windows has improved a lot and with XP SP2, it's been much better.
There are Linux people out there who are still thinking of Windows 95
securtiy. They should be comparing the latest everything from MS with
the latest everything from Linux.
Abdu

Visual Web Developer Express Edition should be free

I don't know how much Microsoft is planning to price Visual Web Developer
Express Edition. I heard rumors from free to $100.

In my opinion I think it should make it free. The reason is to attract as
many people to .NET and ASP.NET. This includes people who are in the Linux
world using free IDE's like Eclipse and the people who are thinking of
switching from Windows to Linux because Linux and Linux tools are free.
Even if MS prices it at $50, it is still too much for teenagers who are
going to be the future software engineers, developers and coders,... third
world countries developers and the people who just don't want to pay a
penny for any software (the if-it's software,
it-should-be-downloadable-for-free folks).

I would like to think of Visual Web Developer Express Edition as the next
version of Web Matrix and *IS* supported by Microsoft. This way, MS can get
tons of people interested in .NET. On top of that, make the package include
SQL Server 2005 Express Edition for free too (I think it is already?).
I don't think MS is too happy with the fact that .NET hasn't been embraced
as it thought it would.

MS doesn't need to make any money from these entry level packages. It
didn't do it with IE. The long term benefits will be astounding.

John Dalbergi think the express products will be free but thats again for MS to decide.
Either way its aim towards enthusiasts and not developers.
Most season developers would prefer visual studio.net

SQL Server Express is just a new name for MSDE but it will have some UI
tools as well. and MSDE has been free and so would SQL Express me (most
probably)

Well i dont know anybody using linux because of free dev tools... there are
hardly any consider any programming platform. And .net has been embraced a
lot if you ask me. Its a total change in strategy and it takes time. We even
have partial framework implementation on Linux (www.go-mono.com) .Net is not
about making money its making about making life for an average developer
easy. Consider a poor sod supporting a win32 app... or even ms employees
who build apps on top on apis.. the framework essentially shields them from
api's in most cases.

--

Regards,

Hermit Dave
(http://hdave.blogspot.com)
"John Dalberg" <john_dd@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1exbrusncex3v.ujpyv1hu9m92.dlg@.40tude.net...
>
> I don't know how much Microsoft is planning to price Visual Web Developer
> Express Edition. I heard rumors from free to $100.
> In my opinion I think it should make it free. The reason is to attract as
> many people to .NET and ASP.NET. This includes people who are in the
> Linux
> world using free IDE's like Eclipse and the people who are thinking of
> switching from Windows to Linux because Linux and Linux tools are free.
> Even if MS prices it at $50, it is still too much for teenagers who are
> going to be the future software engineers, developers and coders,... third
> world countries developers and the people who just don't want to pay a
> penny for any software (the if-it's software,
> it-should-be-downloadable-for-free folks).
> I would like to think of Visual Web Developer Express Edition as the next
> version of Web Matrix and *IS* supported by Microsoft. This way, MS can
> get
> tons of people interested in .NET. On top of that, make the package
> include
> SQL Server 2005 Express Edition for free too (I think it is already?).
> I don't think MS is too happy with the fact that .NET hasn't been embraced
> as it thought it would.
> MS doesn't need to make any money from these entry level packages. It
> didn't do it with IE. The long term benefits will be astounding.
> John Dalberg
I suspect it will be free, or at least dirt cheap.
I'd be surprised if they charged as much as $100 for it, although they
certainly wouldn't charge more.
Of course all such decisions are ultimately up to Microsoft so I can't say
for sure, I just know that their marketing department is not stupid.

--
I hope this helps,
Steve C. Orr, MCSD, MVP
http://Steve.Orr.net

"John Dalberg" <john_dd@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1exbrusncex3v.ujpyv1hu9m92.dlg@.40tude.net...
>
> I don't know how much Microsoft is planning to price Visual Web Developer
> Express Edition. I heard rumors from free to $100.
> In my opinion I think it should make it free. The reason is to attract as
> many people to .NET and ASP.NET. This includes people who are in the
> Linux
> world using free IDE's like Eclipse and the people who are thinking of
> switching from Windows to Linux because Linux and Linux tools are free.
> Even if MS prices it at $50, it is still too much for teenagers who are
> going to be the future software engineers, developers and coders,... third
> world countries developers and the people who just don't want to pay a
> penny for any software (the if-it's software,
> it-should-be-downloadable-for-free folks).
> I would like to think of Visual Web Developer Express Edition as the next
> version of Web Matrix and *IS* supported by Microsoft. This way, MS can
> get
> tons of people interested in .NET. On top of that, make the package
> include
> SQL Server 2005 Express Edition for free too (I think it is already?).
> I don't think MS is too happy with the fact that .NET hasn't been embraced
> as it thought it would.
> MS doesn't need to make any money from these entry level packages. It
> didn't do it with IE. The long term benefits will be astounding.
> John Dalberg
I personally do not care how they do it. Free is fine, but if there is a
market, all the better. I do not think you will see .NET die if there is not
a free product, so our jobs are safe. ;-
Even at $100, I think there is a market for the product, especially when
products like FrontPage are much pricier.

--
Gregory A. Beamer
MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA

***************************
Think Outside the Box!
***************************

"John Dalberg" wrote:

>
> I don't know how much Microsoft is planning to price Visual Web Developer
> Express Edition. I heard rumors from free to $100.
> In my opinion I think it should make it free. The reason is to attract as
> many people to .NET and ASP.NET. This includes people who are in the Linux
> world using free IDE's like Eclipse and the people who are thinking of
> switching from Windows to Linux because Linux and Linux tools are free.
> Even if MS prices it at $50, it is still too much for teenagers who are
> going to be the future software engineers, developers and coders,... third
> world countries developers and the people who just don't want to pay a
> penny for any software (the if-it's software,
> it-should-be-downloadable-for-free folks).
> I would like to think of Visual Web Developer Express Edition as the next
> version of Web Matrix and *IS* supported by Microsoft. This way, MS can get
> tons of people interested in .NET. On top of that, make the package include
> SQL Server 2005 Express Edition for free too (I think it is already?).
> I don't think MS is too happy with the fact that .NET hasn't been embraced
> as it thought it would.
> MS doesn't need to make any money from these entry level packages. It
> didn't do it with IE. The long term benefits will be astounding.
> John Dalberg
>
"John Dalberg" <john_dd@.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1exbrusncex3v.ujpyv1hu9m92.dlg@.40tude.net...
>
> I don't know how much Microsoft is planning to price Visual Web Developer
> Express Edition. I heard rumors from free to $100.
> In my opinion I think it should make it free. The reason is to attract as
> many people to .NET and ASP.NET. This includes people who are in the Linux
> world using free IDE's like Eclipse

Folks in the Linux camp aren't going to switch to asp.net because of a free dev tool. There are many reasons they prefer
Linux that have nothing to do with the cost of MS tools.
"Hermit Dave" <hermitd.REMOVE@.CAPS.AND.DOTS.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<uUtPPO3jEHA.712@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>...
> i think the express products will be free but thats again for MS to decide.
> Either way its aim towards enthusiasts and not developers.
> Most season developers would prefer visual studio.net

Microsoft needs to get as many developers writing for .NET as it can.
If this means giving the Express IDE's away, I think it would make a
lot of sense.

The developers use the professional tools like VS.NET, the enthusiasts
can use the Express tools for free. Even a $5 tool is still a barrier
for a teenager who doesn't have a credit card to buy such a tool
online or is too lazy to ask his/he dad to pay for it and would rather
instead switch to Linux and download everything they want for free.
Microsoft needs to disuade these types by giving the entry level tools
for free. IE captured most of the browser market because IE is free.
It can do similary with IDEs and get developers develop for the
Windows Platform. Once a ton of open source of .NET are out there,
more people will use Windows and Microsoft can leverage on this base
better.

Abdu
"Peter Young" <youngpa@.comcast.no.net.spam.please> wrote in message news:<#FxvCB5jEHA.4068@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>...
> "John Dalberg" <john_dd@.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1exbrusncex3v.ujpyv1hu9m92.dlg@.40tude.net...
> > I don't know how much Microsoft is planning to price Visual Web Developer
> > Express Edition. I heard rumors from free to $100.
> > In my opinion I think it should make it free. The reason is to attract as
> > many people to .NET and ASP.NET. This includes people who are in the Linux
> > world using free IDE's like Eclipse
> Folks in the Linux camp aren't going to switch to asp.net because of a free dev tool. There are many reasons they prefer
> Linux that have nothing to do with the cost of MS tools.

They don't have to switch to Windows. They can run Wine or whatever
emulator is out there and play with .NET. There's always the people
who switched to Linux because of cost and lack of free open source
apps. Once we have lots of these apps, the defection for this reason
can be hampered and people might defect back to Windows. Some people
defect to Linux because of (perceived?) better security. Security in
Windows has improved a lot and with XP SP2, it's been much better.
There are Linux people out there who are still thinking of Windows 95
securtiy. They should be comparing the latest everything from MS with
the latest everything from Linux.

Abdu

Visual Web Developer Express edition

Has anyone here used Visual Web Developer for creating commercial
asp.net applications?

I'm curious if there's actually any difference between Visual Studio and
Visual Web Developer in terms of the type of web applications you can
build etc?

Reading on the web only seems to bring up Microsoft documentation that
states it's primarily for 'hobbyists' and not for professionals.

So this has me a bit hesitant to start a major commercial application
using it, instead of going out and purchasing Visual Studio.

Is the 'hobbyist' thing just them trying to get you to buy a product you
otherwise wouldn't need?

(we don't use SourceSafe, so integration with SourceSafe isn't a
requirement - one thing I understand Web Developer doesn't have)
--

fiddlewidawiddumre:

Quote:

Originally Posted by

I'm curious if there's actually any difference between Visual Studio and
Visual Web Developer in terms of the type of web applications you can
build etc?

There a product feature comparison here :

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/p...re/default.aspx
Also, there's some differences listed here:
http://www.ipona.com/samples/032125...orrections.aspx
Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en espaol : http://asp.net.do/foros/
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Quote:

Originally Posted by

Has anyone here used Visual Web Developer for creating commercial
asp.net applications?
>
I'm curious if there's actually any difference between Visual Studio and
Visual Web Developer in terms of the type of web applications you can
build etc?
>
Reading on the web only seems to bring up Microsoft documentation that
states it's primarily for 'hobbyists' and not for professionals.
>
So this has me a bit hesitant to start a major commercial application
using it, instead of going out and purchasing Visual Studio.
>
Is the 'hobbyist' thing just them trying to get you to buy a product you
otherwise wouldn't need?
>
(we don't use SourceSafe, so integration with SourceSafe isn't a
requirement - one thing I understand Web Developer doesn't have)
--
>
fiddlewidawiddum

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 Juan T. Llibre <nomailreplies@.nowhere.comwrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by

re:

Quote:

Originally Posted by

>I'm curious if there's actually any difference between Visual Studio and
>Visual Web Developer in terms of the type of web applications you can
>build etc?

>
There a product feature comparison here :
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/p...re/default.aspx
>
Also, there's some differences listed here:
http://www.ipona.com/samples/032125...orrections.aspx

thanks.

So generally speaking, there are no limitations in using Visual Web
Developer to create a powerful web application?

The only limits are on how the development takes place, is that right?

i.e. one could theoretically create ebay.com using Visual Web Developer?
--

fiddlewidawiddum
re:

Quote:

Originally Posted by

So generally speaking, there are no limitations in using Visual Web
Developer to create a powerful web application?

Depending on how you define "a powerful web application", no limitations.

re:

Quote:

Originally Posted by

The only limits are on how the development takes place, is that right?

A bit more than that but, esssentially, except for Mobile Device support,
which VWD doesn't have, you're limited in that VWD doesn't support :

Source Control
Local database development only ( can't modify db's remotely from the IDE )
No Class Designer
No Object Test Bench
No Crystal Reports ( you must use SQL Reporting Services )
No remote debugging ( local only )
No 64-bit Compiler Support
No Server Explorer ( servers node )
No Code profiling
No Static analysis analysis
No Unit testing
No Code coverage
No Project Management
No Test case management
No support for command-line Class Library ( must compile manually )
No development for Office programs

re:

Quote:

Originally Posted by

i.e. one could theoretically create ebay.com using Visual Web Developer?

Yes, although you'll have to work a little harder without the tools listed above.

;-)

Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
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Quote:

Originally Posted by

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 Juan T. Llibre <nomailreplies@.nowhere.comwrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by

>re:

Quote:

Originally Posted by

>>I'm curious if there's actually any difference between Visual Studio and
>>Visual Web Developer in terms of the type of web applications you can
>>build etc?

>>
>There a product feature comparison here :
>>
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/p...re/default.aspx
>>
>Also, there's some differences listed here:
>http://www.ipona.com/samples/032125...orrections.aspx

>
thanks.
>
So generally speaking, there are no limitations in using Visual Web
Developer to create a powerful web application?
>
The only limits are on how the development takes place, is that right?
>
i.e. one could theoretically create ebay.com using Visual Web Developer?
--
>
fiddlewidawiddum

you aren't constrained to one tool. Real developers don't use Visual Studio for everything.

ASP.net websites can be developed with any text editor.

If one tool is missing a feature, finish the job with another tool.

"Stimp" <ren@.spumco.comwrote in message news:slrnehghei.jvp.ren@.murphy.redbrick.dcu.ie...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

Has anyone here used Visual Web Developer for creating commercial
asp.net applications?
>
I'm curious if there's actually any difference between Visual Studio and
Visual Web Developer in terms of the type of web applications you can
build etc?
>
Reading on the web only seems to bring up Microsoft documentation that
states it's primarily for 'hobbyists' and not for professionals.
>
So this has me a bit hesitant to start a major commercial application
using it, instead of going out and purchasing Visual Studio.
>
Is the 'hobbyist' thing just them trying to get you to buy a product you
otherwise wouldn't need?
>
(we don't use SourceSafe, so integration with SourceSafe isn't a
requirement - one thing I understand Web Developer doesn't have)
--
>
fiddlewidawiddum

Visual web developer Express edition

Does anyone know if the 2.5mb download from MS is all you need, or does it
connect to the web during install and download the rest. Is that all of it?The total download is around 450MB,
not including MSDN documentation.

Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
Foros de ASP.NET en Espaol : http://asp.net.do/foros/
======================================
"Josh" <s@.a.com> wrote in message news:%23XWSEREwFHA.3124@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Does anyone know if the 2.5mb download from MS is all you need, or does it connect to
> the web during install and download the rest. Is that all of it?

Visual web developer Express edition

Does anyone know if the 2.5mb download from MS is all you need, or does it
connect to the web during install and download the rest. Is that all of it?The total download is around 450MB,
not including MSDN documentation.
Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
Foros de ASP.NET en Espaol : http://asp.net.do/foros/
======================================
"Josh" <s@.a.com> wrote in message news:%23XWSEREwFHA.3124@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...kred">
> Does anyone know if the 2.5mb download from MS is all you need, or does it
connect to
> the web during install and download the rest. Is that all of it?

visual web developer expression edition 2005

where to download templates for visual web developer expression edition 2005

(C# web application templates)

Do you mean theStarter Kits?

Visual Web Developer Express vs Visual Studio 2005

Hello, I would like to know how are these two applications compared. I am wanting to learn asp.net 2.0 for web programming, so maybe I could just stick with Visual Web Developer since it's free and probably doesn't lack functionality. My guess is that with Visual Studio you can build everything from Windows software to asp.net websites? Can someone give me more information on these two products?
Thank youYou might want to check out the FAQ for Studio 2005 and Express.
But basically, Web Developer will do everything that the WebDevelopment portion of Studio 2005 does. It is lacking primarilySource Control and some other enterprise features.
Express FAQ
Full FAQ

bill
Source Control is the ability to compile the project and deploy binaries only?

No, source control where your source code is held in another repository that can be shared across different users and typically support versioning of code and retaining previous versions of code.

bill

Does VWD have the ability to compile source code into binaries only ?
Is there any place where we could find more information on thoseEnterprise characteristics found in VS 2005 that you referred to ?

Visual Web Developer Express How do I build Code-behind into DLL in bin folder

I'm just starting to use VWD Express. Supposedly, if I use a separate
file (code behind) for my web forms, it should build them into a DLL
into the Bin folder. However, no bin folder was automatically created
when I create the project, nor when I build the website. And no DLL
was placed anywhere in my website folder. How do I build the
code-behind files so they would be in the bin folder?That isn't support in the Express version.
See the Prerequisites here:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/1y1404zt.aspx
"If you want to deploy a finished Web site to a server, you can use the
Publish Web Site utility that is included with the Microsoft Visual Web
Developer Web development tool. "
"The Visual Web Developer Express edition does not support the Publish Web
Site utility."
Perhaps you could do this with the compiler and a command-line script. Not
sure.
"teliot" <drummerjc@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132898686.202460.225880@.z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> I'm just starting to use VWD Express. Supposedly, if I use a separate
> file (code behind) for my web forms, it should build them into a DLL
> into the Bin folder. However, no bin folder was automatically created
> when I create the project, nor when I build the website. And no DLL
> was placed anywhere in my website folder. How do I build the
> code-behind files so they would be in the bin folder?
>
I see, no wonder I couldn't find that function anywhere. Thank you for
your clarification.
I did however find a way to compile the entire website using command
line tool "aspnet_compiler.exe" which eliminates all code files and put
them all in DLL assemblies. It eventually worked out for the best,
since this method conceals all codes and prevent copying or tampering
of the source and should run faster since the server won't have to
compile the App_Code folder.
I see, but in Microsoft's book "Microsoft Visual Web Developer 2005
Express Edition - Build a Web Site Now!" I found this quote:
"If your program source code resides anywhere else (referring to
anywhere other than the app_code folder or inline), you'll need to
choose Build Web Site from the Build menu, and then be sure to upload
the resulting /bin folder along with the rest of your site. You won't,
however, need to upload our program source files; this may reduce the
risk of theft or tampering."
And that's why I assume that the "Build Web Site" command will
automatically generate the /bin folder for me.
But in the meantime, I did manage to use aspnet_compile.exe to compile
the entire site into a target folder, then copy the content to my
actual website.
Thanks.
Hmmmm. You might want to check with the author of the book. The current crop
of books were written based on beta 2. You may have found a change in the
release product that the authors couldn't or didn't know about.
Ken
"teliot" <drummerjc@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1133025405.103104.167610@.f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>I see, but in Microsoft's book "Microsoft Visual Web Developer 2005
> Express Edition - Build a Web Site Now!" I found this quote:
> "If your program source code resides anywhere else (referring to
> anywhere other than the app_code folder or inline), you'll need to
> choose Build Web Site from the Build menu, and then be sure to upload
> the resulting /bin folder along with the rest of your site. You won't,
> however, need to upload our program source files; this may reduce the
> risk of theft or tampering."
> And that's why I assume that the "Build Web Site" command will
> automatically generate the /bin folder for me.
> But in the meantime, I did manage to use aspnet_compile.exe to compile
> the entire site into a target folder, then copy the content to my
> actual website.
> Thanks.
>
>Hmmmm. You might want to check with the author of the book. The current crop
>of books were written based on beta 2. You may have found a change in the
>release product that the authors couldn't or didn't know about.
It's not the only one. That book has a few things like that in it. Not
very impressive given that MS is giving it away free to people who
register VWD. You'd think they would have updated it.
Alan Silver
(anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)
If it is an electronic version, it should have been updated. If it is
printed, keep in mind that the lead time for a print book is several months.
The problem is that people want the books to appear on the same date as the
software, even though the software is changing up to the last w or so
before the release. A book can't keep up.
"Alan Silver" <alan-silver@.nospam.thanx> wrote in message
news:GbCrtFa4a5iDFw3H@.nospamthankyou.spam...
> It's not the only one. That book has a few things like that in it. Not
> very impressive given that MS is giving it away free to people who
> register VWD. You'd think they would have updated it.
> --
> Alan Silver
> (anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)
>If it is an electronic version, it should have been updated. If it is
>printed, keep in mind that the lead time for a print book is several months.[/color
]
It is an electronic version, that's why I made the comment. Obviously a
printed version couldn't have been changed that easily. The PDF file
could, and should, have been changed.
Ta ra
>The problem is that people want the books to appear on the same date as the
>software, even though the software is changing up to the last w or so
>before the release. A book can't keep up.
>"Alan Silver" <alan-silver@.nospam.thanx> wrote in message
>news:GbCrtFa4a5iDFw3H@.nospamthankyou.spam...
>
Alan Silver
(anything added below this line is nothing to do with me)

Visual Web Developer performance.

I have been using web matrix, which I love, for my web development. I
downloaded vwd beta 2 and I have to say it is almost as bad as opening
VS 2003 from a performance standpoint. Don't get me wrong, I like
alot of the features but it almost brings my computer to a screeching
halt when it is opening. If I accidentally double click, say, an xml
file, I cringe because I know I have to wait for about a minute for the
damn thing to load before I can shut it down. Typically I right-click
on files to select the program to open it with. I know I can change
the file associations but that is beside the point. VWD is very slow
at loading and during use, and compared to web matrix, and is almost
painful. It really makes me not want to use it. I was wondering if
there was any way a person could make vwd "lighter" by disabling
features.
I would really like to see an updated webmatrix even if I had to pay
for it and it didn't have all the bells and whistles. Actually, it is
probably the bells and whistles that make using vwd such a pain.
Anyway, that is my $0.02.
By the way, I am running a dell P4 1.8 workstation with 768 mb ram.It is a beta.
There is a product feedback site.
Or, you could contact Van Kichline at MS who's responsible VWD performance
(or atleast was a while ago). Check out this blog entry from him:
http://blogs.msdn.com/vank/archive/.../19/217148.aspx
Karl
MY ASP.Net tutorials
http://www.openmymind.net/ - New and Improved (yes, the popup is
annoying)
http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more to
come!)
"Stephen" <switter@.enpathmed.com> wrote in message
news:1116946030.518228.241680@.g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I have been using web matrix, which I love, for my web development. I
> downloaded vwd beta 2 and I have to say it is almost as bad as opening
> VS 2003 from a performance standpoint. Don't get me wrong, I like
> alot of the features but it almost brings my computer to a screeching
> halt when it is opening. If I accidentally double click, say, an xml
> file, I cringe because I know I have to wait for about a minute for the
> damn thing to load before I can shut it down. Typically I right-click
> on files to select the program to open it with. I know I can change
> the file associations but that is beside the point. VWD is very slow
> at loading and during use, and compared to web matrix, and is almost
> painful. It really makes me not want to use it. I was wondering if
> there was any way a person could make vwd "lighter" by disabling
> features.
> I would really like to see an updated webmatrix even if I had to pay
> for it and it didn't have all the bells and whistles. Actually, it is
> probably the bells and whistles that make using vwd such a pain.
> Anyway, that is my $0.02.
> By the way, I am running a dell P4 1.8 workstation with 768 mb ram.
>
Thanks for the site! I went there immediately and posted my concerns.
Another reason I love MS products so much.
I realize it is a beta, but I have a hard time believing they will be
able to that much more performance out of it in the RTM unless they
allow you to turn off things like intellisense, the web server, and
such. Anyway, I don't want to sound like I am saying it is terrible,
just very slow. I might add that compared to programming in classic
asp, .net is like heaven on earth.

Visual Web Developer Guided Tour

I was following along with this start to finish example inside VS2005 and ran into some code that didn't work and haven't been able to figure out what is wrong.
I got to the Object Data binding section adding update funtionality section. The code they gave is :
Public Sub UpdateAuthor(ByVal au_lname As String, ByVal au_fname As String, _
ByVal phone As String, ByVal address As String, ByVal city As String, ByVal state As String, _
ByVal zip As String, ByVal contract As Boolean, ByVal au_id As String)
Dim authorsTableAdapter As New AuthorsDataSetTableAdapters.authorsTableAdapter
authorsTableAdapter.Update(au_id, au_lname, au_fname, phone, address, city, state, zip, contract, au_id)
End Sub
The bold part seems to be the problem as it is expecting someting like this which I created:

Public Sub UpdateAuthor(ByVal au_lname As String, ByVal au_fname As String, ByVal phone As String, ByVal address As String, ByVal city As String, ByVal state As String, ByVal zip As String, ByVal contract As Boolean, ByVal au_id As String)
Dim authorsTable As New AuthorsDataSet
Dim authorsTableAdapter As New AuthorsDataSetTableAdapters.authorsTableAdapter
authorsTableAdapter.Update(authorsTable)
End Sub

Unfortunately, my solution doesn't update anything. Can anyone help?
You are passing in au_id in at the beginning and the end when you only need it in the end.

No removing the first 'au_id' makes no difference.

I have searched high and low and no one seems to know the answer to the Guided Tour problem.

So what should te arguments to 'authorsTableAdapter.Update' be?

Has anyone actually completed the Guide Tour ?

Is the AutoEventWire set to true or false in the Page directive?

visual web developer setup file

hi,
from the ms site it downlaod visual web developer a 2mb file. when i run it its run the online setup .. can you tell me where the installation files download so next time i can run off line setup.
thanksWhen you downloaded, there should have been an option there which would let you download all the files required for an offline setup.

Visual Web Developer Question?

Is Visual Web Developer is it worth installing?
Can i use Web Matrix with ASP.Net 2.0?
Cos i know VWDeveloper is meant for ASP.Net 2.0 and not ver 1.1.
Can both run side by side?

*** Sent via Developersdex http://www.developersdex.com ***I think people's experience with this has been mixed...I know I've
successfully done it, but I think I've heard others have not...don't do it
on a production machine :)

I'm pretty sure side-by-side support is officially supported in Beta1, but
being beta means nothing is really official :)

Karl

--
MY ASP.Net tutorials
http://www.openmymind.net/ - New and Improved (yes, the popup is
annoying)
http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more to
come!)
"Patrick Olurotimi Ige" <naijacoder@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ugWSK%23rNFHA.1392@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Is Visual Web Developer is it worth installing?
> Can i use Web Matrix with ASP.Net 2.0?
> Cos i know VWDeveloper is meant for ASP.Net 2.0 and not ver 1.1.
> Can both run side by side?
>
>
> *** Sent via Developersdex http://www.developersdex.com ***
Thx Karl for the reply.
Def not on a production server!
So how do you run ur applications side by side if ur using both
versions..
Can u hint me?

*** Sent via Developersdex http://www.developersdex.com ***
re:
> Is Visual Web Developer is it worth installing?

If you want to develop ASP.NET 2.0 applications
in a much more lighter environment than VS.NET, yes.

re:
> Can i use Web Matrix with ASP.Net 2.0?

You can, but you won't have any 2.0 objects
that you can simply drag into pages.

Anything you write within Web Matrix will run, though
( if properly written, of course ).

You can use Notepad with ASP.NET 2.0, too. ;-)

re:
> Can both run side by side?

Yes. Web Matrix runs against .Net Framework 1.1,
and VWD runs against .Net Framework 2.0.

I'm running them both as we speak...

Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
http://asp.net.do/foros/
Foros de ASP.NET en Espaol
Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
======================

"Patrick Olurotimi Ige" <naijacoder@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ugWSK%23rNFHA.1392@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Is Visual Web Developer is it worth installing?
> Can i use Web Matrix with ASP.Net 2.0?
> Cos i know VWDeveloper is meant for ASP.Net 2.0 and not ver 1.1.
> Can both run side by side?
>
>
> *** Sent via Developersdex http://www.developersdex.com ***
re:
> So how do you run ur applications side by side
> if ur using both versions..

You ensure that each application is pointed to the
correct .Net Framework version, and you make
sure that all 1.1 apps run in one Application Pool
and that all 2.0 apps run in a different Application Pool.

No big thing. It takes about 1 minute to do that.
They run perfectly side-by-side.

Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
http://asp.net.do/foros/
Foros de ASP.NET en Espaol
Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
======================

"Patrick Olurotimi Ige" <naijacoder@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23eRk4JsNFHA.3076@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Thx Karl for the reply.
> Def not on a production server!
> So how do you run ur applications side by side if ur using both
> versions..
> Can u hint me?
>
>
> *** Sent via Developersdex http://www.developersdex.com ***
AFAIK it depends on the site settings. "aspnet_regiis" allows to know which
version is running on a particular site...

Patrice

--

"Patrick Olurotimi Ige" <naijacoder@.hotmail.com> a crit dans le message de
news:%23eRk4JsNFHA.3076@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Thx Karl for the reply.
> Def not on a production server!
> So how do you run ur applications side by side if ur using both
> versions..
> Can u hint me?
>
>
> *** Sent via Developersdex http://www.developersdex.com ***
Thx for the advice..
But on installing both...
Would i still need to do some extra setup ?
I mean will the 2 versions install seperately?
So when i run apps on Asp web Matrix it will use ver 1.1 and Visual
Developer wpould use ver 2.0?

*** Sent via Developersdex http://www.developersdex.com ***
Can i use Appl pool on IIS 5?
And how do u ensure each apps is pointed to the right one.

*** Sent via Developersdex http://www.developersdex.com ***
no, but then you can only run one at a time..which should sitll be
acceptable in development...when you install 2.0, a new tab in IIS shows up
to switch which version it's running under..else you could use aspnet_regiis

Karl

--
MY ASP.Net tutorials
http://www.openmymind.net/ - New and Improved (yes, the popup is
annoying)
http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more to
come!)
"Patrick Olurotimi Ige" <naijacoder@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OsUd5csNFHA.604@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Can i use Appl pool on IIS 5?
> And how do u ensure each apps is pointed to the right one.
>
>
> *** Sent via Developersdex http://www.developersdex.com ***
My personal choice is using Denis Bauer's
ASP.NET Version Switcher.

http://www.denisbauer.com/NETTools/...onSwitcher.aspx

Denis should get a medal for writing this app.

Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
http://asp.net.do/foros/
Foros de ASP.NET en Espaol
Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
======================

"Karl Seguin" <karl REMOVE @. REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net>
wrote in message news:u37ROqsNFHA.3296@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> no, but then you can only run one at a time..which should sitll be
> acceptable in development...when you install 2.0, a new tab in IIS shows
> up
> to switch which version it's running under..else you could use
> aspnet_regiis
> Karl
> --
> MY ASP.Net tutorials
> http://www.openmymind.net/ - New and Improved (yes, the popup is
> annoying)
> http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more to
> come!)
> "Patrick Olurotimi Ige" <naijacoder@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OsUd5csNFHA.604@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Can i use Appl pool on IIS 5?
>> And how do u ensure each apps is pointed to the right one.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *** Sent via Developersdex http://www.developersdex.com ***
re:
> But on installing both...
> Would i still need to do some extra setup ?

No. Just set them up.

re:
> I mean will the 2 versions install seperately?

Yes, they will ( separate install setups ).

re:
> So when i run apps on Asp web Matrix it will use
> ver 1.1 and Visual Developer would use ver 2.0?

Exactly.

*But*, you can still write version 2.0 apps in Web Matrix.

It's only that you won't have the 2.0 objects
available for dragging into files, and the class browser
will only be able to see the .NET Framework 1.1 assemblies.

Anything you hand-code with it will run in 2.0, though.

Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
http://asp.net.do/foros/
Foros de ASP.NET en Espaol
Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
======================

"Patrick Olurotimi Ige" <naijacoder@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%234r32XsNFHA.568@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Thx for the advice..
> But on installing both...
> Would i still need to do some extra setup ?
> I mean will the 2 versions install seperately?
> So when i run apps on Asp web Matrix it will use ver 1.1 and Visual
> Developer wpould use ver 2.0?
>
> *** Sent via Developersdex http://www.developersdex.com ***
Thx Karl.
Juan i will look up Denis Bauer's ASP.NET Version Switcher.
Patrick

*** Sent via Developersdex http://www.developersdex.com ***

Visual Web Developer Question?

Is Visual Web Developer is it worth installing?
Can i use Web Matrix with ASP.Net 2.0?
Cos i know VWDeveloper is meant for ASP.Net 2.0 and not ver 1.1.
Can both run side by side?
*** Sent via Developersdex http://www.examnotes.net ***I think people's experience with this has been mixed...I know I've
successfully done it, but I think I've heard others have not...don't do it
on a production machine :)
I'm pretty sure side-by-side support is officially supported in Beta1, but
being beta means nothing is really official :)
Karl
MY ASP.Net tutorials
http://www.openmymind.net/ - New and Improved (yes, the popup is
annoying)
http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more to
come!)
"Patrick Olurotimi Ige" <naijacoder@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ugWSK%23rNFHA.1392@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Is Visual Web Developer is it worth installing?
> Can i use Web Matrix with ASP.Net 2.0?
> Cos i know VWDeveloper is meant for ASP.Net 2.0 and not ver 1.1.
> Can both run side by side?
>
>
> *** Sent via Developersdex http://www.examnotes.net ***
Thx Karl for the reply.
Def not on a production server!
So how do you run ur applications side by side if ur using both
versions..
Can u hint me?
*** Sent via Developersdex http://www.examnotes.net ***
re:
> Is Visual Web Developer is it worth installing?
If you want to develop ASP.NET 2.0 applications
in a much more lighter environment than VS.NET, yes.
re:
> Can i use Web Matrix with ASP.Net 2.0?
You can, but you won't have any 2.0 objects
that you can simply drag into pages.
Anything you write within Web Matrix will run, though
( if properly written, of course ).
You can use Notepad with ASP.NET 2.0, too. ;-)
re:
> Can both run side by side?
Yes. Web Matrix runs against .Net Framework 1.1,
and VWD runs against .Net Framework 2.0.
I'm running them both as we speak...
Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
http://asp.net.do/foros/
Foros de ASP.NET en Espaol
Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
======================
"Patrick Olurotimi Ige" <naijacoder@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ugWSK%23rNFHA.1392@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Is Visual Web Developer is it worth installing?
> Can i use Web Matrix with ASP.Net 2.0?
> Cos i know VWDeveloper is meant for ASP.Net 2.0 and not ver 1.1.
> Can both run side by side?
>
>
> *** Sent via Developersdex http://www.examnotes.net ***
re:
> So how do you run ur applications side by side
> if ur using both versions..
You ensure that each application is pointed to the
correct .Net Framework version, and you make
sure that all 1.1 apps run in one Application Pool
and that all 2.0 apps run in a different Application Pool.
No big thing. It takes about 1 minute to do that.
They run perfectly side-by-side.
Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
http://asp.net.do/foros/
Foros de ASP.NET en Espaol
Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
======================
"Patrick Olurotimi Ige" <naijacoder@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23eRk4JsNFHA.3076@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Thx Karl for the reply.
> Def not on a production server!
> So how do you run ur applications side by side if ur using both
> versions..
> Can u hint me?
>
>
> *** Sent via Developersdex http://www.examnotes.net ***
AFAIK it depends on the site settings. "aspnet_regiis" allows to know which
version is running on a particular site...
Patrice
"Patrick Olurotimi Ige" <naijacoder@.hotmail.com> a crit dans le message de
news:%23eRk4JsNFHA.3076@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Thx Karl for the reply.
> Def not on a production server!
> So how do you run ur applications side by side if ur using both
> versions..
> Can u hint me?
>
>
> *** Sent via Developersdex http://www.examnotes.net ***
Thx for the advice..
But on installing both...
Would i still need to do some extra setup ?
I mean will the 2 versions install seperately?
So when i run apps on Asp web Matrix it will use ver 1.1 and Visual
Developer wpould use ver 2.0?
*** Sent via Developersdex http://www.examnotes.net ***
Can i use Appl pool on IIS 5?
And how do u ensure each apps is pointed to the right one.
*** Sent via Developersdex http://www.examnotes.net ***
no, but then you can only run one at a time..which should sitll be
acceptable in development...when you install 2.0, a new tab in IIS shows up
to switch which version it's running under..else you could use aspnet_regiis
Karl
MY ASP.Net tutorials
http://www.openmymind.net/ - New and Improved (yes, the popup is
annoying)
http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more to
come!)
"Patrick Olurotimi Ige" <naijacoder@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OsUd5csNFHA.604@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Can i use Appl pool on IIS 5?
> And how do u ensure each apps is pointed to the right one.
>
>
> *** Sent via Developersdex http://www.examnotes.net ***
My personal choice is using Denis Bauer's
ASP.NET Version Switcher.
http://www.denisbauer.com/NETTools/...onSwitcher.aspx
Denis should get a medal for writing this app.
Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
http://asp.net.do/foros/
Foros de ASP.NET en Espaol
Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
======================
"Karl Seguin" <karl REMOVE @. REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net>
wrote in message news:u37ROqsNFHA.3296@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> no, but then you can only run one at a time..which should sitll be
> acceptable in development...when you install 2.0, a new tab in IIS shows
> up
> to switch which version it's running under..else you could use
> aspnet_regiis
> Karl
> --
> MY ASP.Net tutorials
> http://www.openmymind.net/ - New and Improved (yes, the popup is
> annoying)
> http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more to
> come!)
> "Patrick Olurotimi Ige" <naijacoder@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OsUd5csNFHA.604@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>

Visual Web Developer performance.

I have been using web matrix, which I love, for my web development. I
downloaded vwd beta 2 and I have to say it is almost as bad as opening
VS 2003 from a performance standpoint. Don't get me wrong, I like
alot of the features but it almost brings my computer to a screeching
halt when it is opening. If I accidentally double click, say, an xml
file, I cringe because I know I have to wait for about a minute for the
damn thing to load before I can shut it down. Typically I right-click
on files to select the program to open it with. I know I can change
the file associations but that is beside the point. VWD is very slow
at loading and during use, and compared to web matrix, and is almost
painful. It really makes me not want to use it. I was wondering if
there was any way a person could make vwd "lighter" by disabling
features.

I would really like to see an updated webmatrix even if I had to pay
for it and it didn't have all the bells and whistles. Actually, it is
probably the bells and whistles that make using vwd such a pain.

Anyway, that is my $0.02.

By the way, I am running a dell P4 1.8 workstation with 768 mb ram.It is a beta.

There is a product feedback site.

Or, you could contact Van Kichline at MS who's responsible VWD performance
(or atleast was a while ago). Check out this blog entry from him:
http://blogs.msdn.com/vank/archive/.../19/217148.aspx

Karl

--
MY ASP.Net tutorials
http://www.openmymind.net/ - New and Improved (yes, the popup is
annoying)
http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more to
come!)
"Stephen" <switter@.enpathmed.com> wrote in message
news:1116946030.518228.241680@.g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I have been using web matrix, which I love, for my web development. I
> downloaded vwd beta 2 and I have to say it is almost as bad as opening
> VS 2003 from a performance standpoint. Don't get me wrong, I like
> alot of the features but it almost brings my computer to a screeching
> halt when it is opening. If I accidentally double click, say, an xml
> file, I cringe because I know I have to wait for about a minute for the
> damn thing to load before I can shut it down. Typically I right-click
> on files to select the program to open it with. I know I can change
> the file associations but that is beside the point. VWD is very slow
> at loading and during use, and compared to web matrix, and is almost
> painful. It really makes me not want to use it. I was wondering if
> there was any way a person could make vwd "lighter" by disabling
> features.
> I would really like to see an updated webmatrix even if I had to pay
> for it and it didn't have all the bells and whistles. Actually, it is
> probably the bells and whistles that make using vwd such a pain.
> Anyway, that is my $0.02.
> By the way, I am running a dell P4 1.8 workstation with 768 mb ram.
Thanks for the site! I went there immediately and posted my concerns.
Another reason I love MS products so much.

I realize it is a beta, but I have a hard time believing they will be
able to eek that much more performance out of it in the RTM unless they
allow you to turn off things like intellisense, the web server, and
such. Anyway, I don't want to sound like I am saying it is terrible,
just very slow. I might add that compared to programming in classic
asp, .net is like heaven on earth.

Visual Web Developer uses Firefox instead of IE?

Hi,
I am using Visual Web Developer 2005, whenever I run the application, it
launches Firefox, how do I change this to IE?
Any help much appreciated
Mark BaldwinRight-click the file in question in the IDE; Select "Browse with";
Click "Add"; and add your favorite browser.
After, make it the default browser to use.
Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
==========================
"Mark" <swozz_@.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ORJyxB9sFHA.2592@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...[
color=darkred]
> Hi,
> I am using Visual Web Developer 2005, whenever I run the application, it l
aunches
> Firefox, how do I change this to IE?
> --
> Any help much appreciated
> Mark Baldwin
>[/color]
If you are going to use CSS in any capacity you are well advised to use
FireFox to develop all publically accessible websites as FireFox uses the
Gecko parser which many other standards compliant browsers also do. Then
hack up your code to respond to all of the IE bugs that fail to meet the
standards. For example study this one issue of more than a dozen that IE
breaks terribly...
search: ie box model hack
It has become insane to develop using IE and then figure out how to hack the
pages so they will render in all the other browsers that render correctly in
the first place.
Does this make sense?
<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
"Juan T. Llibre" <nomailreplies@.nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:OM3HaM9sFHA.2948@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Right-click the file in question in the IDE; Select "Browse with";
> Click "Add"; and add your favorite browser.
> After, make it the default browser to use.
>
> Juan T. Llibre
> ASP.NET MVP
> ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
> ==========================
> "Mark" <swozz_@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ORJyxB9sFHA.2592@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
So your solution is to develop for the browser with 5% market
penetration and leave the vast majority of users in the world hanging?
I still can't understand why developers continue to tolerate FireFox.
It's not backwards compatable with IE. It's not even backwards
compatable with Netscape. It can't correctly render anything that
hasn't been custom tailored to it. This would be completely
unacceptable in any other software product, but FireFox seems to get a
pass because its supporters are so with Microsoft.
I suggest we just stop supporting it.
Jason Kester
Expat Software Consulting Services
http://www.expatsoftware.com/
jasonkester ha scritto:
> I still can't understand why developers continue to tolerate FireFox.
> It's not backwards compatable with IE. It's not even backwards
> compatable with Netscape.
Because it is based on web standards, and IE is not. So we have to
"tolerate" IE, but hoping that in a near future all browsers would be
standard-compliant.

Visual Web Developer uses Firefox instead of IE?

Hi,

I am using Visual Web Developer 2005, whenever I run the application, it
launches Firefox, how do I change this to IE?

--
Any help much appreciated
Mark BaldwinRight-click the file in question in the IDE; Select "Browse with";
Click "Add"; and add your favorite browser.

After, make it the default browser to use.

Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
==========================

"Mark" <swozz_@.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ORJyxB9sFHA.2592@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> I am using Visual Web Developer 2005, whenever I run the application, it launches
> Firefox, how do I change this to IE?
> --
> Any help much appreciated
> Mark Baldwin
If you are going to use CSS in any capacity you are well advised to use
FireFox to develop all publically accessible websites as FireFox uses the
Gecko parser which many other standards compliant browsers also do. Then
hack up your code to respond to all of the IE bugs that fail to meet the
standards. For example study this one issue of more than a dozen that IE
breaks terribly...

search: ie box model hack

It has become insane to develop using IE and then figure out how to hack the
pages so they will render in all the other browsers that render correctly in
the first place.

Does this make sense?

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/

"Juan T. Llibre" <nomailreplies@.nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:OM3HaM9sFHA.2948@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Right-click the file in question in the IDE; Select "Browse with";
> Click "Add"; and add your favorite browser.
> After, make it the default browser to use.
>
> Juan T. Llibre
> ASP.NET MVP
> ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
> ==========================
> "Mark" <swozz_@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ORJyxB9sFHA.2592@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am using Visual Web Developer 2005, whenever I run the application, it
>> launches Firefox, how do I change this to IE?
>>
>> --
>> Any help much appreciated
>> Mark Baldwin
>>
>>
So your solution is to develop for the browser with 5% market
penetration and leave the vast majority of users in the world hanging?

I still can't understand why developers continue to tolerate FireFox.
It's not backwards compatable with IE. It's not even backwards
compatable with Netscape. It can't correctly render anything that
hasn't been custom tailored to it. This would be completely
unacceptable in any other software product, but FireFox seems to get a
pass because its supporters are so angry with Microsoft.

I suggest we just stop supporting it.

Jason Kester
Expat Software Consulting Services
http://www.expatsoftware.com/
jasonkester ha scritto:
> I still can't understand why developers continue to tolerate FireFox.
> It's not backwards compatable with IE. It's not even backwards
> compatable with Netscape.
Because it is based on web standards, and IE is not. So we have to
"tolerate" IE, but hoping that in a near future all browsers would be
standard-compliant.