Saturday, March 31, 2012

Visual Web Developer Express edition

Has anyone here used Visual Web Developer for creating commercial
asp.net applications?

I'm curious if there's actually any difference between Visual Studio and
Visual Web Developer in terms of the type of web applications you can
build etc?

Reading on the web only seems to bring up Microsoft documentation that
states it's primarily for 'hobbyists' and not for professionals.

So this has me a bit hesitant to start a major commercial application
using it, instead of going out and purchasing Visual Studio.

Is the 'hobbyist' thing just them trying to get you to buy a product you
otherwise wouldn't need?

(we don't use SourceSafe, so integration with SourceSafe isn't a
requirement - one thing I understand Web Developer doesn't have)
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fiddlewidawiddumre:

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Originally Posted by

I'm curious if there's actually any difference between Visual Studio and
Visual Web Developer in terms of the type of web applications you can
build etc?


There a product feature comparison here :

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/p...re/default.aspx
Also, there's some differences listed here:
http://www.ipona.com/samples/032125...orrections.aspx
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Originally Posted by

Has anyone here used Visual Web Developer for creating commercial
asp.net applications?
>
I'm curious if there's actually any difference between Visual Studio and
Visual Web Developer in terms of the type of web applications you can
build etc?
>
Reading on the web only seems to bring up Microsoft documentation that
states it's primarily for 'hobbyists' and not for professionals.
>
So this has me a bit hesitant to start a major commercial application
using it, instead of going out and purchasing Visual Studio.
>
Is the 'hobbyist' thing just them trying to get you to buy a product you
otherwise wouldn't need?
>
(we don't use SourceSafe, so integration with SourceSafe isn't a
requirement - one thing I understand Web Developer doesn't have)
--
>
fiddlewidawiddum


On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 Juan T. Llibre <nomailreplies@.nowhere.comwrote:

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Originally Posted by

re:

Quote:

Originally Posted by

>I'm curious if there's actually any difference between Visual Studio and
>Visual Web Developer in terms of the type of web applications you can
>build etc?


>
There a product feature comparison here :
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/p...re/default.aspx
>
Also, there's some differences listed here:
http://www.ipona.com/samples/032125...orrections.aspx


thanks.

So generally speaking, there are no limitations in using Visual Web
Developer to create a powerful web application?

The only limits are on how the development takes place, is that right?

i.e. one could theoretically create ebay.com using Visual Web Developer?
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fiddlewidawiddum
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Quote:

Originally Posted by

So generally speaking, there are no limitations in using Visual Web
Developer to create a powerful web application?


Depending on how you define "a powerful web application", no limitations.

re:

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Originally Posted by

The only limits are on how the development takes place, is that right?


A bit more than that but, esssentially, except for Mobile Device support,
which VWD doesn't have, you're limited in that VWD doesn't support :

Source Control
Local database development only ( can't modify db's remotely from the IDE )
No Class Designer
No Object Test Bench
No Crystal Reports ( you must use SQL Reporting Services )
No remote debugging ( local only )
No 64-bit Compiler Support
No Server Explorer ( servers node )
No Code profiling
No Static analysis analysis
No Unit testing
No Code coverage
No Project Management
No Test case management
No support for command-line Class Library ( must compile manually )
No development for Office programs

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i.e. one could theoretically create ebay.com using Visual Web Developer?


Yes, although you'll have to work a little harder without the tools listed above.

;-)

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On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 Juan T. Llibre <nomailreplies@.nowhere.comwrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by

>re:

Quote:

Originally Posted by

>>I'm curious if there's actually any difference between Visual Studio and
>>Visual Web Developer in terms of the type of web applications you can
>>build etc?


>>
>There a product feature comparison here :
>>
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/p...re/default.aspx
>>
>Also, there's some differences listed here:
>http://www.ipona.com/samples/032125...orrections.aspx


>
thanks.
>
So generally speaking, there are no limitations in using Visual Web
Developer to create a powerful web application?
>
The only limits are on how the development takes place, is that right?
>
i.e. one could theoretically create ebay.com using Visual Web Developer?
--
>
fiddlewidawiddum


you aren't constrained to one tool. Real developers don't use Visual Studio for everything.

ASP.net websites can be developed with any text editor.

If one tool is missing a feature, finish the job with another tool.

"Stimp" <ren@.spumco.comwrote in message news:slrnehghei.jvp.ren@.murphy.redbrick.dcu.ie...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

Has anyone here used Visual Web Developer for creating commercial
asp.net applications?
>
I'm curious if there's actually any difference between Visual Studio and
Visual Web Developer in terms of the type of web applications you can
build etc?
>
Reading on the web only seems to bring up Microsoft documentation that
states it's primarily for 'hobbyists' and not for professionals.
>
So this has me a bit hesitant to start a major commercial application
using it, instead of going out and purchasing Visual Studio.
>
Is the 'hobbyist' thing just them trying to get you to buy a product you
otherwise wouldn't need?
>
(we don't use SourceSafe, so integration with SourceSafe isn't a
requirement - one thing I understand Web Developer doesn't have)
--
>
fiddlewidawiddum

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